IBIS Macromodel Task Group Meeting date: 28 April 2009 Members (asterisk for those attending): Adge Hawes, IBM Ambrish Varma, Cadence Design Systems * Anders Ekholm, Ericsson Arpad Muranyi, Mentor Graphics Corp. Barry Katz, SiSoft * Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group Brad Brim, Sigrity Brad Griffin, Cadence Design Systems Chris McGrath, Synopsys David Banas, Xilinx Deepak Ramaswany, Ansoft Donald Telian, consultant Doug White, Cisco Systems Eckhard Lenski, Nokia-Siemens Networks Essaid Bensoudane, ST Microelectronics Fangyi Rao, Agilent Ganesh Narayanaswamy, ST Micro Gang Kang, Sigrity Hemant Shah, Cadence Design Systems Ian Dodd, Agilent Jerry Chuang, Xilinx Joe Abler, IBM John Angulo, Mentor Graphics John Shields, Mentor Graphics Ken Willis, Cadence Design Systems Kumar Keshavan, Sigrity Lance Wang, Cadence Design Systems Luis Boluna, Cisco Systems * Michael Mirmak, Intel Corp. * Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems Mike Steinberger, SiSoft Mustansir Fanaswalla, Xilinx Patrick O'Halloran, Tiburon Design Automation Paul Fernando, NCSU Pavani Jella, TI Radek Biernacki, Agilent (EESof) * Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Ray Comeau, Cadence Design Systems Richard Mellitz, Intel Richard Ward, Texas Instruments Samuel Mertens, Ansoft Sam Chitwood, Sigrity Sanjeev Gupta, Agilent Shangli Wu, Cadence Design Systems Sid Singh, Extreme Networks Stephen Scearce, Cisco Systems Steve Pytel, Ansoft Syed Huq, Cisco Systems Syed Sadeghi, ST Micro Ted Mido, Synopsys Terry Jernberg, Cadence Design Systems Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft Vladimir Dmitriev-Zdorov Vikas Gupta, Xilinx Vuk Borich, Agilent Walter Katz, SiSoft Zhen Mu, Cadence Design Systems ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Opens: -------------------------- Call for patent disclosure: - No one declared a patent. ------------- Review of ARs: - Walter send IBIS-IS documents to list (with Randy's email) - Done - Mike L update Dependent Sources document - Only looked at it so far - Todd: Write IBIS s-param BIRD - Still working on it - Arpad: Write parameter passing syntax proposal (BIRD draft) for *-AMS models in IBIS that is consistent with the parameter passing syntax of the AMI models - TBD - TBD: Propose a parameter passing syntax for the SPICE - [External ...] also? - TBD - Arpad: Review the documentation (annotation) in the macro libraries. - Deferred until a demand arises or we have nothing else to do ------------- New Discussion: We looked at pages edited by Walter: - Mike L: The book number is 9 - Do we want to leave this in? - Bob: We will deal with this later - Bob: First we must decide what stays and what goes - Mike L: The boilerplate may require more discussion than the elements - Michael M: It would be best if one person did the actual editing - In the next meeting we should choose the editor - Mike L: VCVS MIN= MAX= are not described here - Bob: This is probably not needed for interconnect Mike L: Possible policies for IBIS-IS are: - 1) A minimal, elegant language for interconnect - This would be easy for simulators to adopt - 2) Keep features unless they are absolutely not a good idea - Some simulators already implement - Bob: We are waiting for a more final document Michael M: The technical discussion will take the most work from the group Randy's comments were partially reviewed in the last call. Michael M: We need to agree on procedures Next meeting: 05 May 2009 12:00pm PT -----------